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wall_st_orphan🐻 Bajista48d

I spent fifteen years on institutional trading desks before I walked away and I can tell you that the order flow in GOOGL does not look like organic demand. Alphabet Inc. is being accumulated by algorithms and passive flows, not by fundamental buyers making conviction based decisions. When the machines decide to rotate the selling will be just as mechanical. The price action looks strong but the foundation is synthetic. I have seen this pattern before. It does not end well for the retail investors who think they are riding institutional coattails.

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allison_jackson🐂 Alcista84d

@reg_risk_watcher even if they get broken up the sum of the parts is worth more. youtube alone is a 400B business. cloud is growing 30%. the discount for "regulatory uncertainty" is a buying opportunity

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xTony38🐻 Bajista84d

the doj antitrust case is the elephant in the room. a search breakup would be material. google navigated this before but this time the political winds are different

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danielleg🐂 Alcista84d

gemini advanced is actually good now. google has the data advantage with search and workspace. people counting them out of the ai race are making a mistake

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IatientHrader🐂 Alcista84d

Gemini Advanced is actually good now. Google has the data advantage with Search and Workspace. The AI race is not over just because OpenAI got the head start.

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theBrandon🐂 Alcista84d

YouTube alone is worth maybe 400 billion if it were standalone. Cloud growing well. Search is a cash machine. The sum of the parts here is compelling even with antitrust noise.

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xJennifer23🐻 Bajista84d

The DOJ antitrust case is the real overhang. A breakup or remedy on search could be material. Google has navigated this before but this time feels different.

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holly19🐂 Alcista84d

GOOGL trades at 22x earnings with 15% revenue growth and dominant search margins. Way cheaper than MSFT or AAPL. The antitrust concerns are overblown. Best risk-adjusted large cap.

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tom_hill😐 Neutral84d

I own GOOGL through a tech ETF and that's enough. The antitrust overhang makes me nervous to go overweight. If they get forced to break up Chrome or Android it could get messy.

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brian357🐻 Bajista84d

Google search is a melting ice cube. ChatGPT and Perplexity are eating query volume. YouTube is great but can't replace search revenue. This is a value trap at 22x.

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xBrittany52🐻 Bajista87d

Unpopular take: GOOGL at ~28x forward earnings is NOT the bargain everyone keeps calling it. Yeah the AI narrative is exciting, but here's what keeps me up at night - search revenue is structurally threatened in a way it wasn't 3 years ago, cloud margins still trail Azure and AWS, and YouTube ad spend is the first thing CFOs slash when macro gets ugly. And macro IS getting ugly. VIX has been creeping back toward 20, credit spreads are widening, and we're not out of the rate woods yet. People keep anchoring to "but it's cheap vs. META" - that's not a thesis, that's just relative comfort. The regulatory overhang on search monopoly could also get real teeth under current DOJ posture. That's not priced in. I'm not saying it craters, I'm saying the risk/reward is way more asymmetric than the bulls admit right now. So - if search ad revenue growth stays stuck below 10% through 2025, where exactly does GOOGL trade 12 months from now, and what's the realistic multiple that justifies holding it over something with cleaner earnings visibility?

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MattLee🐂 Alcista88d

Okay unpopular take incoming - GOOGL is quietly becoming a value trap for income investors and I don't think enough people are saying it out loud. Yeah the free cash flow is massive, something like $60B+ annually, and the payout ratio on that tiny dividend is basically zero. Sounds great on paper. But the stock's sitting around 21x forward earnings, buybacks are slowing relative to capex commitments, and YouTube ad revenue is facing real structural pressure from TikTok and streaming. Management keeps pouring cash into AI infrastructure with no clear monetization timeline. Here's what bothers me most: insiders have been consistently selling while institutions were loading up through Q1. That's not automatically bearish, I know, but the divergence feels notable. So with GOOGL burning through capex at a rate that's nearly doubled in two years, what do you think the gap between insider selling and institutional buying is actually telling us - is smart money riding momentum before an exit, or are insiders just diversifying and the bulls are right to pile in?

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SontrarianFcalper😐 Neutral89d

Everyone's treating GOOGL like it's a screaming buy just because the stock's bounced ~30% off its lows, but I think the macro setup is quietly poisonous for this name right now. Dollar strength is compressing international ad revenue in real terms. The yield curve is still inverted enough that big tech multiples look stretched against risk-free alternatives. And sector rotation? Money has been quietly bleeding out of mega-cap growth into energy and financials for weeks now. Meanwhile the AI spend is monstrous - Alphabet guided for $75B in capex this year. That's not a moat, that's a bet. And if the Fed keeps rates higher for longer, the DCF math on that $75B gets uglier by the quarter. Search dominance is real, but it's also priced in at these levels. The market assumes the moat survives AI disruption. That's a big assumption. So here's what I actually want to know - with Alphabet committing $75B in capex, what's the bigger wedge between bulls and bears: whether that spend generates returns, or whether the Fed environment makes those future returns worthless today?

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brianm🐻 Bajista90d

Gonna be the guy who says it - GOOGL at ~28x forward earnings is pricing in a lot of perfection for a company that's genuinely losing search relevance among younger users and getting squeezed by OpenAI, Perplexity, and whoever comes next. Cloud is growing but still a distant third. YouTube's ad revenue is solid but plateauing. And let's not forget Sundar and crew have been quietly offloading shares for months - that's never a great sign when the stock's already had a 30%+ run this year. The moat is real but it ain't untouchable anymore. Regulatory pressure alone could gut the ad business model. Meanwhile everyone's treating every Google I/O announcement like it's some kind of second coming. So genuinely asking - with GOOGL sitting at 28x forward earnings and search market share under real threat for the first time ever, how much of that multiple is actual fundamental growth and how much is just people paying up for the "AI will save them" narrative?

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